tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post6612908124681305169..comments2024-03-14T11:12:48.615+01:00Comments on Unspoken Cinema: Slowish Obsession, terBenoitRouillyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525748892885946674noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-35446640272297051472010-05-14T13:54:59.774+02:002010-05-14T13:54:59.774+02:00Sorry I hurt your feelings. The tone of your comme...Sorry I hurt your feelings. The tone of your comment lulled me to believe you talked like a tough critic. Action calls reaction of equal and opposite force.<br />Don't throw stones in my backyard if your roof is made of glass. ;)<br /><br />Tell me about "healthy film and theory debates"! Where are they? What do they talk about, pray tell, pretty please!HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-15370083761660150012010-05-14T12:30:14.579+02:002010-05-14T12:30:14.579+02:00the tone used here, in response to nick james, the...the tone used here, in response to nick james, then steven shaviro (twice), after a perffectly valid rebuttal to your position's own apparent shortcomings is little more than that of a bully found with their pants down.<br /><br />the sooner this "unspoken-elitism" disintegrates the better for healthy film and theory debates, and the blogosphere for that matter.EMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04895995922116669272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-28596457260105548062010-05-14T09:16:00.287+02:002010-05-14T09:16:00.287+02:00update: my comments at IFC have been restored, wit...update: my comments at IFC have been restored, with a comment by "IFC".<br />all is cool. :)HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-335838397869591002010-05-14T07:54:46.317+02:002010-05-14T07:54:46.317+02:00C.V.,
thanks for your insightful contribution.
If ...C.V.,<br />thanks for your insightful contribution.<br />If the arguments brought up by James & Shaviro is enough to fulfill your curiosity, there is nothing I can do for you.<br />But I'd hope you would see no harm in leaving to people who don't share your opinions the liberty to venture in wild investigations that don't matter to you. <br />Disagreeing and sharing it : OK. HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-68837320089670466592010-05-14T07:44:10.018+02:002010-05-14T07:44:10.018+02:00John Noll,
my comments (2) appeared on the page, a...John Noll,<br />my comments (2) appeared on the page, and were removed when I came back later. It's not like it was an automated spam filter... And my comment wasn't trollish, spamming or insulting. Just skeptical like any comments anywhere. <br />IFC is a big corporation filtering the freedom of expression of its readers now?<br />You blame ME for writing personal opinions on MY blog? HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-64657263957930616712010-05-14T07:39:23.281+02:002010-05-14T07:39:23.281+02:00weepingsam,
the tautology you describe is what ha...weepingsam, <br />the tautology you describe is what happens in the "media" because they misconceive it, especially when simplified as "slow cinema". But this blog here is grounded on examinable evidences: I don't think it's tautological if that's what you meant. <br />Was that Glenn Kenny's point? I didn't see that. I thought it was all about bashing HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-90279543604763453592010-05-14T00:04:01.732+02:002010-05-14T00:04:01.732+02:00one should think the bluff of this silly 'ccc&...one should think the bluff of this silly 'ccc' theory has been called, good on steven shaviro and nick james.<br /><br />nick james is so right to point out the fraud of this so called aesthetic, worse, the "unspoken-elitism" (as a commenter mentioned on shaviro's blog) employed to glue together what is no more than an aggregate of tastes -- what could be more disparate thanEMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04895995922116669272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-89053983293802774962010-05-13T23:27:34.552+02:002010-05-13T23:27:34.552+02:00Rather than make assumptions about Mr. Rizov and h...Rather than make assumptions about Mr. Rizov and his comments thread, maybe you should understand that it is not "his" blog but that of a corporation that one would guess has control over comments. I enjoy reading both your work and Vadim's. I don't believe he is the kind of writer who would delete criticism of his work. I think that letting your comments stray from the topicJohn Nollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723752972978297010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-64397813251073972562010-05-13T19:49:24.464+02:002010-05-13T19:49:24.464+02:00Where did you see CCC taken into consideration as ...<i>Where did you see CCC taken into consideration as a group?</i><br /><br />I think in some ways it's almost completely tautological - CCC (or Slow cinema or whatever people call it) is a meaningful trend because people talk about it as if it were a meaningful trend. And because it's possible to talk about it as a meaningful trend (without necessarily saying anything meaningful about it)weepingsamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885871104310819374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-86064616212334695992010-05-13T19:32:05.254+02:002010-05-13T19:32:05.254+02:00The insightful comments I'm referring to above...The insightful comments I'm referring to above can be read <a href="http://www.ifc.com/blogs/indie-eye/2010/05/slow-cinema-backlash.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> :<br /><br />estienne64 : "Harry Tuttle probably has a point about Nick James' pandering to a more populist agenda – as a UK resident I am acutely aware that, largely for political reasons, the culture here is uncomfortable HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-65341096537119338622010-05-13T19:28:51.468+02:002010-05-13T19:28:51.468+02:00Vadim Rizov decided to censor my comments on his b...Vadim Rizov decided to censor my comments on his blog, so I'll have to write here: <br /><br />"The comments are more insightful than the main post. It's the wonders of Web 2.0! ;)"<br /><br />If critics aren't confident in what they write enough to allow their readers to criticise it, they should THINK twice before publishing it publicly!<br />Film Criticism is not just HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-14627640562831427402010-05-13T15:31:53.850+02:002010-05-13T15:31:53.850+02:00Where did you see CCC taken into consideration as ...Where did you see CCC taken into consideration as a group? By detractors maybe when they call these films "slow cinema" or "festival-whore films"... Either the films lumped together is incoherent, or the definition associated with them is misleading. So it doesn't help to understand this trend.<br />The only text attempting to define it as a group was Antony Fiant in HarryTuttlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721542203087536185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35348238.post-83110156594385623632010-05-13T13:38:52.644+02:002010-05-13T13:38:52.644+02:00Without getting into the details quite yet - how m...Without getting into the details quite yet - how much of this discussion revolves around the fact that critics have found a way to talk about contemplative films as a group? That it is possible to lump them together - you can find a way to talk about Costa, Alonso, Tarr, Jia, Ceylan (etc.) as if they were part of a movement, but it's much harder to lump, say, Maddin, Martel, Desplechin, Von weepingsamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885871104310819374noreply@blogger.com